<![CDATA[Multiwfn forum / Problem in EDA analysis]]> //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?id=1632 The most recent posts in Problem in EDA analysis. Fri, 21 Mar 2025 04:26:30 +0000 FluxBB <![CDATA[Re: Problem in EDA analysis]]> //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4982#p4982

Thank you sir

dummy@example.com (Sumitkadam) Fri, 21 Mar 2025 04:26:30 +0000 //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4982#p4982
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Never use SDD (the built-in version in Gaussian) for main group elements, which lacks of polarization functions, making the result fairly poor. In addition, B and Al are not heavy elements, there is no benefit in using a pseudopotential basis set for them. If you are not very familar with basis sets, I suggest simply using def2 series of basis set.

dummy@example.com (sobereva) Thu, 20 Mar 2025 23:18:20 +0000 //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4981#p4981
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Can I use the SDD basis set for Boron and Aluminium?

dummy@example.com (Sumitkadam) Thu, 20 Mar 2025 17:10:03 +0000 //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4980#p4980
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Dear Multiwfn Developer,

I wanted to express my heartfelt thanks for taking the time to address my query regarding Pauli repulsion.
Thank you again for your kindness and expertise!

dummy@example.com (Sumitkadam) Thu, 20 Mar 2025 14:48:49 +0000 //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4979#p4979
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I recalculated your system using def2-SVP for C, O, Ga, only Mn use SDD. The sobEDA result looks normal:

Total interaction energy: -1831.63 kcal/mol Physical components of interaction energy derived by sobEDA: Electrostatic (E_els): -935.60 kcal/mol Exchange (E_x): -36.20 kcal/mol Pauli repulsion (E_rep): 170.01 kcal/mol Exchange-repulsion (E_xrep = E_x + E_rep): 133.81 kcal/mol Orbital (E_orb): -1002.25 kcal/mol DFT correlation (E_DFTc): -7.54 kcal/mol Dispersion correction (E_dc): -20.05 kcal/mol Coulomb correlation (E_c = E_DFTc + E_dc): -27.59 kcal/mol

In the template.gjf you sent to me, Ga uses SDD. The key reason for your weird result I think is the SDD basis set embedded in Gaussian is too poor for Ga, there is even no d polarization function. Even def2-SVP is much better (at least there are d polarization functions). So, my suggestion is never using SDD for Ga, In, Tl, just using def2-TZVP for them like C and O.

dummy@example.com (sobereva) Thu, 20 Mar 2025 08:27:44 +0000 //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4978#p4978
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I have sent it on email.

dummy@example.com (Sumitkadam) Thu, 20 Mar 2025 06:16:52 +0000 //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4976#p4976
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I don't know how did you perform the EDA analysis, do you mean sobEDA? Please upload or send me input files and output file for checking. For a chemical bond, Pauli repulsion is always large, it should never be zero.

dummy@example.com (sobereva) Thu, 20 Mar 2025 02:28:44 +0000 //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4975#p4975
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When I am doing an EDA analysis of a molecule [E{Mn(CO)4}5]2- where E= B, Al, Ga, In, Tl considering two fragments E3+ and [{Mn(CO)4}5]5-. When E is considered as Boron or Aluminium it gives a large value of Pauli repulsion but in the case of E= Ga, In, Tl EDA analysis shows zero value of Pauli repulsion. My query is whether I can publish this result in any reputed journal or calculation is wrong?

dummy@example.com (Sumitkadam) Wed, 19 Mar 2025 10:17:17 +0000 //www.umsyar.com/wfnbbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4974#p4974
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